Today The Two Man Power Trip is joined by the very outspoken and often controversial Jamie Dundee. John and Chad gear up for a no-nonsense, pull-no-punches conversation with the man known as JC Ice as he embarks on getting back into the wrestling ring on the Independent Scene. Dundee also gives his uncensored take on all the hot topics in professional wrestling including NXT, the Hulk Hogan racism allegations and his thoughts on Vince McMahon.
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Jamie Dundee Shoots Hard On Tag Teams Stealing PG-13ās Gimmick:Ā https://youtu.be/8vY-cfGEJ8Q
Getting back in the ring:
Itās one of those things where I donāt give a f*ckĀ I guess thatās what all wrestlers do. We either die in a hotel by ODāing but I quit getting high and doing cocaine about seven years ago, so I guess we just die in the ring. Iāve looked in the paper every f*cking Sunday and not one ad says āWANTEDā used washed-up wrestler, nowhere does it say that. If that was the case there would be a lot of guys like Ric Flair and Razor Ramon they would all have jobs still, but not one ad in the paper says washed-up, used-up, has-been wrestler. So I guess Iāve got to go do what I know, I f*cking hate it, I hate the wrestling business today, I hate getting in the car, I hate the driving part so I have to drink a lot of beer and go wrestle. I just canāt stand it.
The current state of the wrestling business:
I aināt never watched wrestling unless Iām on the tape. If Iām not on the show I aināt got to f*cking watch it. Once I see me, I think Iām the best, I love me, I think Iām the f*cking greatest so once I see me I donāt want to watch anybody else. I guess thatās because of growing up in the wrestling business. I bet Dale Earnhardt Jr. doesnāt watch Nascar. But today itās not the wrestling kids fault, they just want to f*cking wrestle. Vince McMahon has taken it to a place where I heard he went to bed a billionaire and woke up a millionaire. When you lose three-hundred million in a 24 hour period if he does that two more times heās broke.
Did he see wrestling evolving to what we see now:
Itās like anything the f*cking mafia, magic, wrestling, the circus. Once you let the outside world in youāve f*cking killed it. I knew David Copperfield didnāt make the Statue of Liberty disappear but I didnāt want to know how he did it because I saw it disappear and I loved it and I didnāt care how he did it. Same with wrestling, if the people can f*cking turn the TV on and call the match then obviously why would you pay to see it. Itās like everyone knew wrestling was a work but they didnāt know how. Once you let the outside world in and by making a show called Tough Enough or by doing other things that Vince McMahon did. But he doesnāt give a f*ck about what Iām saying driving to Tullehoma, Tennessee because heās got a billion dollars in the bank. The wrestlers, there are hundreds of guys that canāt get a job because they are wrestlers and coming from the old school they knew if there character wouldnāt do certain things so Vince McMahon said f*ck you, Iāll make somebody that can do that. Itās not the wrestling guys fault.
Is all the responsibility aimed at Vince McMahon:
Iāve always said he has a video game with real people. Heās killed them, heās discarded them, heās ODāed them. Heās done everything you do in video games. Grand Theft Auto is no different than Vince McMahon playing with real people.
Recent controversies involving āracismā and āracistā comments surrounding pro wrestling:
There is not a mother f*cker on this planet that can tell me that a white person on this planet has never used the ānā word or a black woman who has never said āhonky-assā, ācracker-ass-bitchā not anyone ever can say theyāve never said that because they are full of sh*t. Whether itās behind closed doors, by themselves, during sex whatever it may be. I saw some chick from WWE just got fired because she had a My Little Pony with a āswastikaā on it, and itās Seth Rollinās old lady. If you are going to f*cking fire her over a picture that was from three years ago on a Facebook page then they need to fire the whole f*cking crew, the camera crew and Vince McMahon needs to fire himself. There isnāt a mother f*cker on this planet that has done sh*t like that never thinking of consequences in the future.
Did he get into the wrestling business simply following in his father Bill Dundeeās footsteps:
No, never. A wrestler doesnāt want to wrestle and as a second generation wrestler I hated wrestling. I liked wrestling when I would go to wrestling, I liked that people would touch me and tell me how great I was and since I was eight years old I would sell kisses to fat chicks for $1. I knew how to āmanipulizeā and itās hard to separate the fantasy world from the real world and thatās what happens to the wrestlers who OD in hotel rooms. Everybody wants that one more shot. My brother-in-law played a video for me of Michael Hayes singing to Terry Gordyās grave and itās great but everybody wants to go back and everyone would love to go back to the greatest time in their life but we canāt.
Living the lifestyle of a wrestler from a very young age:
Itās a different world we live in today. My father was raised by a man who was born in 1891 or some sh*t and my Dad was born in 1943 and he went from Scotland to Australia when he was 13 years old so he was/is a tough task-master type of a f*cking guy. So I didnāt like the guy and we didnāt get along but I was a wild child and of course I would be. Iām around people that are telling me how great I am and sending me money and drugs. When I was 4 years old my Dad and Tommy Rich got me drunk and pierced my ear, so in 1975 when I went to Kindergarten my teachers said I canāt wear that earring, well why not? My Daddy put it there. Youāve got to understand that I lived in Hendersonville, Tennessee and our neighbors were Conway Twitty, The Oakridge Boys and Johnny Cash so in that world we were the outsiders. We had motorcycles and pit-bulls but my old man made more money a week then they did.
Working for Jerry Lawler and Jerry Jarrett:
Lawler paid good and Jarrett kept all the f*cking money. The reason being is I guess because Jerry had to pay for Jeff and Jennifer and Jason and Lawler was one of the boys so he knew how to take care of the guys. But Lawler was also anti-drug and everything you did seemed like it was never right for Jerry Lawler. Now the wrestling part and the angles that drew money, he definitely would give you your props but as far as anything else it seemed like every time I would see him he would be mocking you.
Does he have a favorite memory of Lawler vs. Dundee:
Yeah of course I remember waking up and my Dad was bald and when I woke up my Mom was bald and I thought well f*ck me and my sister were next in line. What are you all doing bald? In their credit it was 1979 and they paid my mom ten or fifth-teen grand and a house back then cost about eight grand so two f*cking houses? No b*tch on this planet wouldnāt shave their head right now.
Jamie Dundee also gives further uncensored and intense comments regarding racism in wrestling, whether or not he felt that Nation of Domination was fueled by racism, Hulk Hoganās exile from WWE, his tag team with Wolfie D as PG-13, wrestling with WWE and the schedule, tag team imposters, The Rock Nā Roll Express and more on getting back into the ring.